From: Jyrki T Ilva Newsgroups: rec.music.rock-pop-r+b.1950s,rec.music.rock-pop-r+b.1960s,rec.games.trivia Subject: RESULTS and ANSWER KEY for Golden Oldies Lyrics Quiz #104 Date: 19 Feb 1997 21:51:05 GMT Organization: University of Helsinki Message-ID: <5efsk9$81s@oravannahka.Helsinki.FI> RESULTS and ANSWER KEY for Golden Oldies Lyrics Quiz #104 (GOLQ104) Congratulations to the team of JAMIE LUBIN, NORM KATUNA, MIKE WESTON & STEVE PROPES for winning this quiz with a perfect 500++ score! They were also the only team to identify the hardest song of the quiz, #T1. The team of BARRY SILK, SCOOTER MAGRUDER & JOE HAERTEL was close behind with a near-perfect score, and the team of MIKE WEAVER, BEN BAGDONAS & GEORGE McLELLAN came third with another superb performance. Superior performances were also turned in by REALLY ROCKIN' IN BOSTON; THE GYPSY's CARAVAN; JAMES WHITE; DELPHI TRIVIA CLUB; ANTONIO TORRALBA, DOMINIC BEGG, BEN ROWDON & TUNDE; RON & SALLY CRANDALL and BOB STORCH; MICHAEL GESSNER & DAN DINARDO; and THE EJ's & CO.! Barry Silk has already posted GOLQ105. Thanks to all who entered! Jyrki Ilva & Pekka Halonen --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tie Breaker Scoring Key + after numeric score below indicates a tie-breaker answered correctly. - indicates partial credit. x indicates a totally incorrect guess. . indicates no guess. # on Pos Score ID Name E-mail address team age(s) ---+-----+--+-------------------------------------------------+--+-------- 1 500++ JL Jamie Lubin, Norm Katuna, Mike Weston & Steve Propes 4 51-54 2 500x+ BS Barry Silk, Scooter Magruder & Joe Haertel 3 40s 3 478.+ MW Mike Weaver, Ben Bagdonas, George McClellan 3 50+ 4 460.+ RR Really Rockin' in Boston 6 40s,50 5 458.+ GY The Gypsy's Caravan 4 21+ 6 449.. JW James White 1 48 7 439x+ DC Delphi Trivia Club 9 25-50 8 429.+ AT Antonio Torralba, Dominic Begg, Ben Rowdon and Tunde 4 25-47 9 420x+ RS Ron & Sally Crandall, Bob Storch 3 40s 10 419xx MG Michael Gessner & Dan DiNardo 11 400.. EJ The EJ'S & Co.: Ellis, Jeff, Jim, Jake, Steve, Molly, Mitch, Vinnie, Bruce, Bill, Danda, Denise, Jean 13 30+ 12 380.. MF Michael Flint 1 45 13 378.. SS Sanford Stein, Paul Hallaman 2 46,46 14 360.- RK Rick & Kathy Schubert 2 44 & 47 15 359xx TA Team Asia (Mitch & Barry) 2 45,45 16 358.+ TP T.P.Uschanov 1 17 320.. GT The Genasys Team 5 various 18 319.. WV Wendy Vickers 1 41 19 307.. LB Lori Bailey, Ed Toutant, Rick Crane, Pat Downey 4 40s 20 299.. LP Len & Paul Ellis (The LPs) 2 48 & 46 T21 278.+ LE L'Equipe (Peter Cussons, Bob & Dee Harrold, Margaret Thomas and Denis Menard) 5 40+ T21 278.+ CC Cole & Cole 2 51 & 15 23 278.. SF Sounds Familiar, Ron Anderson 1 46 24 277.. PK Paul Kayser, Paul Cosentino, Dean Luttrell, Megan Kayser, Ann Provenzano, Peter Roberts 6 20s,30s,40s 25 268.. CM Curt Miller & Steve Potter 2 ageless 26 260.. HB Howard Teitelbaum & Bonnie Teitelbaum 2 38,47 T27 259.. PO Pete Olden 1 40+ T27 259.. WM Will McCorry 1 39 29 258.. BP Brian & Pam 2 50ish 30 219.. BL Bruce Long 2 50 31 218.. DO Dutch Officials Team 4 20s/30s 32 210.. EM Evelyn Martinez 1 46 33 198.. TC Team Corning 3 various 34 170.. LL Lee Lester, Pete Chalmers et al 4 45 35 160.. HY Hymie! 1 26 36 149.. DP Dave Pettit 1 20 37 140.. DE David A. Ewing 38 139.. GC Gregory Chambers 1 43 39 130.. DT Dave Tartaglia 1 44 40 119.. DG The Old Folks at DG 2 various 41 110.. TO Tom O'Connor 1 30s 42 100.. AE Are & Elle 2 40s T43 60.. BR Bryan Shailer 1 33 T43 60.. MB Mike Bixenman 1 48 45 49.. MM Marc Meltzer 46 29.. PR The Pete Rauch Experience (Erik Habbinga, Pete Rauch, Tanya Rapacz, Andrea Rapacz, Lyle Margolis) 5 20s ---+-----+--+-------------------------------------------------+--+-------- Pos Score ID Name E-mail address # on age(s) team The following table gives the individual scoring breakdown. A'-' is used to indicate that no guess was made for a question, whereas a zero indicates that a completely incorrect response was submitted. 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Included on the album "Animal Tracks." The song was originally written for The Righteous Brothers, and Weil hated the Animals' version. She said, "When I heard the Animals' record I went berserk because they left out half the lyric. They changed it radically." Antonio Torralba added that it was covered in a medley with "It's My Life" by David Johansen (from The New York Dolls). Ron Crandall noted: "This has slightly different lyrics than the version I usually hear on the radio. I seem to recall a discussion in one of the newsgroups that indicated that the U.S. single version used a different take." I used to cuss, fuss and boogie all night long #02) La Vern Baker: "Saved" (1961) [37] {17} Several teams noted that the song was written by Leiber & Stoller. Antonio added that it was covered by Elvis Presley in a medley "Where could I go but to the Lord" and "Up above my head" as one of the numbers of his TV Christmas Special (his comeback). Cast your dancin' spell my way I promise to go under it #03) Byrds: "Mr. Tambourine Man" (1965) [1] {-} The EJ's & Co. commented: "Written by Bob Dylan; produced by Terry Melcher. The Byrds first hit and first #1 record. Dylan says the song was inspired by the sight of Bruce Langhorne, who played guitar at early Dylan sessions, playing a gigantic tambourine during one session. Dylan recorded a version with Ramblin' Jack Elliot that made its way to The Byrds, then known as The Jet Set, via Dylan friend Jim Dickson. In the studio, Melcher (Doris Day's son) permitted Roger (Jim) McGuinn to be the only Byrd instrumentalist to be heard on the recording with his signature 12-string Rickenbacker guitar. The other musicians were Hal Blaine (drums), Larry Knechtel (bass), Leon Russell (piano), and Terry Cole (Telecaster)." Antonio said: "Written by Bob Dylan and originally released on his "Bringing It All Back Home". Producer Terry Melcher recorded it (and the B-Side "I Knew I'd Want You" with Jim (later Roger) Mc Guinn (lead vocals and 12-string Rickenbacker), David Crosby & Gene Clark (harmonies) and session players Leon Russell (piano), Larry Knechtal (bass) and Hal Blaine (drums). Other recordings: Judy Collins, John Denver and The Chad Mitchell Trio, Melanie, The Barbarians, Marmalade, Johnny Riviers, Johnny Cash and Tammy Wynette, The Buckinghams, Lester Flatt and Earl Scruggs, Jonathan King, Odetta, Glen Campbell, The Brothers Four ..." Pete Olden noted: "A timely song in the season of Mardi Gras [in the U.S.]: I have heard that Dylan wrote this song after seeing a Mardi Gras parade (he refers to 'my own parade' in the song)." Baby baby, when I saw you, ha, a-ha For the very first time I wanted, ha, to love you and leave you behind Until you put me down, I had won every round But something hit, hit me all at once (all at once) Girl, I never thought you could open my nose #04) Gene Chandler: "You Threw a Lucky Punch" (1962/63) [49] {25} Antonio mentioned that it was written by Smokey Robinson, Don Covay and and R. White. He also said that it was an answer record to Mary Wells' "You Beat Me To The Punch" - used in GOLQ100 - (written by Robinson and White). The flip side of the single, a Curtis Mayfield composition called "Rainbow", hit #47 on the pop chart later in 1963. Here, here in the moonlight Hold me while I sing to you #05) Sam Cooke: "Teenage Sonata" (1960) [50] {22} Written by Jeff Barry, and produced by Hugo [Peretti] & Luigi [Creatore], this was Cooke's first RCA single. You turned back crying And called to me But I just stood there silently #06) Johnny Crawford: "Proud" (1963) [29] {-} Ron Crandall noted that even though "Proud" was released on the west-coast label, Del-Fi, it was recorded at the RCA studios in Nashville, and benefited from the legendary session men and engineers available there. And when I take his hand There's no man who could put him down #07) Crystals: "Uptown" (1962) [13] {18} Several teams said that it was written by Barry Mann & Cynthia Weil and produced by Phil Spector; the EJ's & Co. added that Barbara Alston provided the lead vocals. Team Corning also mentioned that Phil Spector played guitar on the record. Now, your dancing child with his Chinese suit He spoke to me, I took his flute No, I wasn't very cute to him, was I? #08) Bob Dylan: "I Want You" (1966) [20] {-} The EJ's & Co. saidd that it was written by Bob Dylan, produced by Bob Johnston and included on the album "Blonde On Blonde". Antonio echoed this and added that there's a Spanish cover by Domingo & Los Citricos. Cole & Cole mentioned that Melissa Ethridge did a rave-up version at the Dylan commemorative concert, right next to Eddie Vetter's outstanding "Masters of War." Pete Olden wrote: "Robert Allen Zimmerman is said to have taken the name of poet Dylan Thomas while growing up in MN. He left the Univ. of Minn. to go visit the ailing Woody Guthrie (his hero, as reflected in Dylan's early music) in a NYC hospital. He then stayed in NYC to start his career as a folksinger and songwriter. Dylan's folk music period period produced 7 albums of rural country folk music and folk music, including GOLQ104 songs #24 and 25. He then startled (and lost some) fans by 'going electric' in 1965 -- and his lyrics became more creative and surreal. This phase produced 3 albums that included songs #2, 8, and 17, but was then abruptly ended in late 1966 by a serious motorcycle accident. Dylan's next album seemed more introspective than before and included song #12. He has been an extremely prolific writer who has influenced many other musicians to take their music BEYOND simple conventional lyrics and sounds (e.g., compare the early songs of the Beatles to their later works). I have often marvelled at the lyrics -- rich with metaphors, imagery, and subtle meaninings -- that he has created to portray, describe, and at times satirize people, life, and society. [Some of this comes from a Dylan book by Wifred Mellers and a Dylan book by Michael Gray.]" We walked on (yeah yeah) To my door (sure did) We walked on to my door And he stayed a little more #09) Exciters: "Do-Wah-Diddy" (1964) [78] {n/c} The EJ's & Co. commented: "Written by Jeff Barry & Ellie Greenwich; produced by Jerry Leiber & Mike Stoller. Barry & Greenwich gave it to The Exciters as a follow-up to "Tell Him." After the Exciters' version peaked at only #78, Barry & Greenwich (as The Raindrops) recorded it themselves. But their version was never released because Manfred Mann had already covered the song which, with the addition of a final "Diddy" to the title, became a #1 song. [Note: The Raindrops' track, though never released as a single, was included on a 1994 Raindrops collection CD.]" Antonio added that Manfred Mann specialised in covering "girl groups", among them The Shirelles ("Sha La La"), Marie Knight ("Come Tomorrow") and Maxine Brown ("Oh No, Not My Baby"). He also mentioned other recordings by Andrew Gold and The Jelly Beans and a Spanish cover by Los Gatos Negros. But if I ever caught you running around Throwing my money all over the town #10) Marvin Gaye: "I'll Be Doggone" (1965) [8] {1} The EJ's & Co. and Antonio both said that it was written by Smokey Robinson, Warren Moore & Marvin Tarplin and produced by Smokey Robinson. They also claimed that it was included on the album "Moods Of Marvin Gaye", and Antonio mentioned a cover version by Bob Weir. Antonio commented: "According to Motown expert Don Waller, Marvin Taplin's guitar line makes the song 'Byrds-like folk rock'. According to David Ritz, Gay said 'Smokey wrote in "I'll Be Doggone" something that knocked me out, he said that a woman ought to be whatever a man wants. I believe that, though it is a thought that's caused me powerful grief. But I can't blame that on Smokey'." My friends are telling me that he's no good He isn't treating me the way he should #11) Lesley Gore: "Maybe I Know" (1964) [14] {n/c} Several teams noted that it was written by Jeff Barry & Ellie Greenwich; The EJ's & Co. added that it was produced by Quincy Jones and included on the album "Girl Talk". Antonio mentioned that it was featured in Ellie Greenwich's musical "Leader Of The Pack". There are many here among us Who feel that life is but a joke #12) Jimi Hendrix Experience: "All Along the Watchtower" (1968) [20] {-} Pete Olden wrote: "Hendrix initially backed the Isley Brothers, Sam Cooke, Little Richard, Jackie Wilson, and Curtis Mayfield in the early 1960s. He was discovered and produced by Chas Chandler (former bassist of the Animals) in 1966. Hendrix created totally new forms of psychedelic rock guitar playing, perhaps best 'experienced' at the climax of the 1967 Monterey Pop Festival. This song is from his third album 'Electric Ladyland'." Antonio said: "Written by Bob Dylan and originally released on his "John Wesley Harding" album. Jimi's only Top 40 USA single (he had 5 Top 10 hits in UK). Other recordings: XTC, Dave Mason, Alan Brown, Nashville Teens, Barbara Keith,..." The EJ's & Co. commented: "Written by Bob Dylan, produced by Jimi Hendrix. Hendrix' only single to reach the Top 20. Writer Dave Marsh notes that Hendrix made this song his own to the extent that, "By the eighties, Dylan was interpolating parts of the Hendrix arrangement into his own show". Since 1992, Dylan has played "Watchtower" at every one of his concerts. It is always the third selection, and he just recently played it for the 1000th time at a concert in Great Britain!" Look at you, baby, look at me So in love we used to be But now it's just a memory #13) Andy Kim: "How'd We Ever Get This Way" (1968) [21] {-} The EJ's & Co. noted that it was written by Jeff Barry & Ellie Greenwich and produced by Jeff Barry. And then I fell in love With the most wonderful boy in the world We'd take long walks down by the river Or just sit for hours gazing into each other's eyes We were so very much in love Then one day he went away And I thought I'd die, but I didn't #14) Peggy Lee: "Is That All There Is" (1969) [11] {-} The EJ's & Co. commented: "Written by Jerry Leiber & Mike Stoller. Was #1 on the Adult Contemporary chart for two weeks. The song received a later edgy, new wave cover from pseudo lounge chanteuse Christina." The song was also included in Martin Scorsese's 1984 film "After Hours", along with several other memorable oldies songs. I'd like to thank the guy Who wrote the song #15) Barry Mann: "Who Put the Bomp (In the Bomp, Bomp, Bomp)" (1961) [7] {-} Antonio commented: "Written by Barry Mann and Gerry Goffin. Featuring The Halos. A celebration of doo-wop catch phrases." The EJ's & Co. said: "Publisher Don Kirshner encouraged Mann to record some of his own songs, and this was his third try at a solo hit. It was his only song to hit the upper half of the chart, but he did release singles on six different labels!" BTW, there's a recent interview with Barry Mann at the address http://kspace.com/KM/news.sys/LASS/pages/0295/interview.html The kids all laugh at his hair And his funny clothes And more than once he's gone home With a bloody nose He's not like them, and they can't ignore it So they all hate him for it #16) Jody Miller: "Home of the Brave" (1965) [25] {-} Written by Barry Mann & Cynthia Weill. The song was also recorded (with slightly different lyrics) by Bonnie & the Treasures, whose version hit only #77 on the pop chart, but is probably better-known today. Although Bonnie & the Treasures' version came out on Phi-Dan (one of Phil Spector's labels), it was produced by Jerry Riopelle, and Bonnie was a white session singer also known as Charlotte O'Hara, not Ronnie Spector under a pseudonym, as many people still seem to believe. She's nobody's child The law can't touch her at all #17) Rick Nelson & the Stone Canyon Band: "She Belongs To Me" (1969/70) [33] {-} The EJ's & Co. noted that this was the first Rick Nelson song to chart with his Stone Canyon Band. Several teams mentioned that it was written by Bob Dylan and originally released on "Blonde On Blonde". Antonio also said that there is a Spanish cover by Domingo y Los Citricos. In the eyes of the world I'm a loser just wasting my time I can't make a dime #18) Gene Pitney: "Looking Through the Eyes Of Love" (1965) [28] {-} The EJ's & Co. said that it was written by Barry Mann & Cynthia Weil. They also mentioned a charted version by The Partridge Family Starring Shirley Jones Featuring David Cassidy in 1972. I know that you've been told It's not fair to tease So if you come on cold I'm really gonna freeze #19) Elvis Presley: "Treat Me Nice" (1957) [18] {7} Antonio commented: "Written by Jerry Leiber and Mike Stoller. They had been in New York for a week to write songs for the "Jailhouse Rock" film, but were partying all the time. According to Jerry Leiber: We were about to leave the hotel room for another assault on Manhattan when Jean Aberbach, of Presley Music, barged in. He pushed a large sofa in front of the door, blocking the entrance, and with that informed us that we were not leaving the room until we had finished the score and placed it in his hands. As he was a rather large man, Mike and I shrugged and went to the rented upright piano in the corner of the room, and while Jean pretended to doze on the couch, we hammered out "Jailhouse Rock", "Treat Me Nice", "I Want To Be Free" and "Baby I Don't Care". We started writing about two o'clock in the afternoon and by six p.m. we were out on the streets again." Just like the desert shows a thirsty man A green oasis where there's only sand #20) Smokey Robinson & the Miracles: "The Love I Saw In You Was Just a Mirage" (1967) [20] {10} Their first hit as Smokey Robinson & the Miracles. Now the song that I find in my heart for you Every lyric and line I swear is true The number one song on my personal chart, yeah #21) Diana Ross & the Supremes: "The Composer" (1969) [27] {21} Several teams noted that it was written by Smokey Robinson. I felt so helpless, what could I do Remembering all the things we've been through #22) Shangri-Las: "Leader of the Pack" (1964/65) [1] {n/c} The EJ's & Co. commented: "Written by Jeff Barry, Ellie Greenwich, and Shadow Morton; produced by Shadow Morton. (Morton attended high school in Levittown, NY, with Greenwich.) The biggest hit for the New York "girl group," their only #1 song. Later became the title of the 1985 Broadway show that showcased Barry & Greenwich songs and featured Darlene Love and Ellie as co-stars. The Shangri-Las started as a quartet consisting of two sets of twins, but at various times there were problems and they appeared as a trio. Lead singer Mary Weiss was 16 years old when this song was recorded. One of the engineers brought his motorcycle into the studio where it mas miked in an echo chamber to record the motor revving sounds in the song. One almost-brush-with-greatness to report: the four Shangri-Las were students at Andrew Jackson High School in Queens, NY, the school of which the dad of EJ'S team membe Ellis was later principal. The song was also recorded in 1985 by the heavy-metal quintet Twisted Sister, and was parodied in 1964 by The Detergents in "Leader Of The Laundromat." Antonio wrote: "B-Side: What Is Love". Follow up to "(Remember) Walkin' In The Sand". The song recharted in UK in 1972 (#3) and 1976 (#7). It stopped at #11 in 1965 in UK because a teenager called Twinkle had a similar "death song" ("Terry") and the press went after The Shangri-Las ("depraved", "Bad taste", "sick", "mournful"), who had to withdraw from a UK tour with Herman's Hermits, Wayne Fontana & The MindBenders and Del Shannon (their place was taken by ... Twinkle!). Covers by UTFO, Twisted Sister and title of the Ellie Greenwich Broadway musical. Parody record: The Detergents' "Leader of the Laundromat" (Ron Dante sang lead, getting himself ready for other Jeff Barry sessions -Archies et al-). In a Goldmine interview, Morton said that Greenwich had nothing to do with "Leader of the Pack" and just gave her and Barry credits "for bringing me into the business". Jeff Barry: "[Morton] actually bought me a motorcycle after 'Leader' was a hit record - I've had thirteen ever since". Antonio also mentioned that there's an interview of "Shadow" Morton at the address http://www.liglobal.com/music/li-rock/shadow01.html Love has problems, I know But they're problems we'll just have to face, oh yeah If you just put your hand in mine We're gonna leave all our troubles behind #23) Temptations: "Don't Look Back" (1965/66) [83] {15} Both Antonio and the EJ's & Co.noted that it was written by Smokey Robinson and Ronald White; produced by Smokey Robinson. They also mentioned that it was included on the album "Temptin' Temptations" and that Mick Jagger and Peter Tosh recorded a duet cover version in 1979 (this version was also mentioned by Sanford Stein). You say you're looking for someone Who's never weak but always strong #24) Turtles: "It Ain't Me Babe" (1965) [8] {-} The EJ's & Co. noted that it was the first hit for the Los Angeles pop-folk-rock group. Antonio commented: "Written by Bob Dylan and included in his album "Another Side Of Bob Dylan". Other recordings: Bryan Ferry, Joan Baez, Maxine Weldon, Johnny Cash and June Carter, Lester Flagg and Earl Scruggs, The Surfaris, Davy Jones, Dino, Desi and Billy. Before this hit, The Turtles had been known as The Nightriders, The Crosswind Singers and The Crossfires (a surf unit, as "Fibergrass Jungle" proves)." Well, how many years How many years can the mountain exist? Yeah, before, before it's washed to the sea, yeah #25) Stevie Wonder: "Blowin In the Wind" (1966) [9] {1} The EJ's & Co. commented: "Written by Bob Dylan. Rock writers Bob Shannon and John Javna have researched a rumor that this song was actually written by a Millburn, NJ, folk singing high school student named Lorre Wyatt in the early '60s. They have written about various circumstances including Wyatt entertaining at the same hospital where Dylan came to visit the dying Woody Guthrie, documentation in the high school newspaper that Wyatt had written the song, and Wyatt ultimately selling Dylan the song for $1000. In 1974, Mike Royko contacted Wyatt to ask if he'd written the song. His responses: "I don't want to talk about it," and "No comment." In liner notes, Dylan has described writing the song. Shannon and Javna have come to no clear conclusion. Dylan sang the song at the 1963 Newport Folk Festival, accompanied by Peter, Paul & Mary. Their version of "Blowin' In The Wind" was Dylan's first appearance in the Top 10." TIE-BREAKERS: Now that it's over Now that I'm crying Now that you've shown me You can't be true Still I know I'm gonna miss you Yes, I'm really gonna miss you #T1) Ruth Brown: "Anyone But You" (1961) [-] {-} Written by Jeff Barry and produced by Phil Spector, this was one of Ruth's last Atlantic singles. Barbara West recorded a beautiful Southern Soul version of the song in the late sixties. Well, the first time that I saw him He was a-sittin' on a piano stool I said, "tell me dad, when does the fun begin?" He just winked his eye and said "man be cool" #T2) Coasters: "Down In Mexico" (1956) [-] {8} Antonio commented: "Written by Jerry Leiber & Mike Stoller. Their first single (b/w "Turtle Dovin'"). Here they were Carl Gardner (lead), Bobby Nunn (both from The Robins), Leon Hughes ("he was a good dancer, and sang a bit, we needed someone fast and he came", said Nunn later) and Billy Guy (lived opposite Gardner). Is the Joe mentioned in the song the same as in "Smokey Joe's Cafe"? Players were Mike Stoller (piano), Barney Kessel (guitar), Ralph "Waldo" Hamilton (bass), Jessie Sailes (drums) and Gil Bernal (sax)." _______________________________________________________________________ THEMES: The quiz had a major theme: important songwriters. All of the songs were written (or co-written) by one of the following writers/teams: -Jeff Barry (and/or Ellie Greenwich) Songs: #05, #09, #11, #13, #22, #T1 -Bob Dylan Songs: #03, #08, #12, #17, #24, #25 -Jerry Leiber and Mike Stoller Songs: #02, #14, #19, #T2 -Barry Mann (and/or Cynthia Weill) Songs: #01, #06, #07, #15, #16, #18 -William "Smokey" Robinson, Jr. Songs: #04, #10, #20, #21, #23 Most of the entrants identified the Bob Dylan theme, but relatively few were able to come up with all five songwriters/teams. _______________________________________________________________________ This chart ranks the songs from most recognized to the least recognized. The third number on the line denotes the average number of points scored on that song (total points divided by the number of entrants, to 1 decimal place). For comparison purposes, tie-breakers are scored here on the usual 20-point scale. Rank Song Avg. Title ---+-----+----+------------------------------------------------------ 1 #15 17.9 Barry Mann: "Who Put the Bomp (In the Bomp, Bomp, Bomp)" 2 #24 17.6 Turtles: "It Ain't Me Babe" T3 #01 17.4 Animals: "We Gotta Get Out Of This Place" T3 #22 17.4 Shangri-Las: "Leader of the Pack" T3 #25 17.4 Stevie Wonder: "Blowin In the Wind" 6 #12 16.6 Jimi Hendrix Experience: "All Along the Watchtower" 7 #03 16.5 Byrds: "Mr. Tambourine Man" 8 #09 14.6 Exciters: "Do-Wah-Diddy" 9 #08 14.3 Bob Dylan: "I Want You" 10 #10 13.0 Marvin Gaye: "I'll Be Doggone" 11 #07 12.0 Crystals: "Uptown" 12 #18 10.4 Gene Pitney: "Looking Through the Eyes of Love" 13 #17 10.3 Rick Nelson & the Stone Canyon Band: "She Belongs To Me" 14 #11 10.0 Lesley Gore: "Maybe I Know" 15 #14 9.1 Peggy Lee: "Is That All There Is" 16 #23 8.9 Temptations: "Don't Look Back" 17 #02 8.5 LaVern Baker: "Saved" 18 #20 8.3 Smokey Robinson & the Miracles: "The Love I Saw In You..." 19 #19 7.6 Elvis Presley: "Treat Me Nice" 20 #13 6.3 Andy Kim: "How'd We Ever Get This Way" 21 #16 6.1 Jody Miller: "Home of the Brave" 22 #21 5.8 Diana Ross & the Supremes: "The Composer" 23 #T2 4.9 Coasters: "Down In Mexico" 24 #04 3.9 Gene Chandler: You Threw a Lucky Punch" T25 #05 2.8 Sam Cooke: "Teenage Sonata" T25 #06 2.8 Johnny Crawford: "Proud" 27 #T1 0.4 Ruth Brown: "Anyone But You" There were no big surprises: #23 did better than we had expected, and #20 and #21 did somewhat worse. _______________________________________________________________________ ---Jyrki Ilva (ilva@cc.helsinki.fi) & Pekka Halonen (halo@sci.fi)